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 There is not a more repulsive spectacle than on old man who will
Author: Hamlet (58.33.239.---)
Date:   10-26-05 13:11

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CX

Alas! 'tis true, I have gone here and there,
And made my self a motley to the view,
Gor'd mine own thoughts, sold cheap what is most dear,
Made old offences of affections new;
Most true it is, that I have look'd on truth
Askance and strangely; but, by all above,
These blenches gave my heart another youth,
And worse essays prov'd thee my best of love.
Now all is done, save what shall have no end:
Mine appetite I never more will grind
On newer proof, to try an older friend,
A god in love, to whom I am confin'd.
Then give me welcome, next my heaven the best,
Even to thy pure and most most loving breast.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
T. S. Eliot<pre>
CXXXI

Thou art as tyrannous, so as thou art,
As those whose beauties proudly make them cruel;
For well thou know'st to my dear doting heart
Thou art the fairest and most precious jewel.
Yet, in good faith, some say that thee behold,
Thy face hath not the power to make love groan;
To say they err I dare not be so bold,
Although I swear it to myself alone.
And to be sure that is not false I swear,
A thousand groans, but thinking on thy face,
One on another's neck, do witness bear
Thy black is fairest in my judgment's place.
In nothing art thou black save in thy deeds,
And thence this slander, as I think, proceeds.
--William Shakespeare</pre>

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Date:   05-10-06 23:13

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We can\'t help everyone, but everyone can help someone.
Ronald Reagan
<pre>
CXXV

Were\'t aught to me I bore the canopy,
With my extern the outward honouring,
Or laid great bases for eternity,
Which proves more short than waste or ruining?
Have I not seen dwellers on form and favour
Lose all and more by paying too much rent
For compound sweet; forgoing simple savour,
Pitiful thrivers, in their gazing spent?
No; let me be obsequious in thy heart,
And take thou my oblation, poor but free,
Which is not mix\'d with seconds, knows no art,
But mutual render, only me for thee.
Hence, thou suborned informer! a true soul
When most impeach\'d, stands least in thy control.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
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I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint
if necessary.
Ronald Reagan
<P><P>Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I\'m not
sure about the the universe. --Albert Einstein<P>

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Date:   05-11-06 09:21

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CXX

That you were once unkind befriends me now,
And for that sorrow, which I then did feel,
Needs must I under my transgression bow,
Unless my nerves were brass or hammer\'d steel.
For if you were by my unkindness shaken,
As I by yours, you\'ve pass\'d a hell of time;
And I, a tyrant, have no leisure taken
To weigh how once I suffer\'d in your crime.
O! that our night of woe might have remember\'d
My deepest sense, how hard true sorrow hits,
And soon to you, as you to me, then tender\'d
The humble salve, which wounded bosoms fits!
But that your trespass now becomes a fee;
Mine ransoms yours, and yours must ransom me.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
The only way to have a friend is to be one. --Ralph Waldo Emerson<P>A friend might well be reckoned the masterpiece of nature. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson<P><P>Belief: St. Augustine Quotes
Faith is to believe what you do not yet see; the reward for this faith is to see what you believe.<P>

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Date:   05-12-06 20:58



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Colour is my day-long obsession, joy and torment.
Claude Monet
<P><pre>
II

When forty winters shall besiege thy brow,
And dig deep trenches in thy beauty\'s field,
Thy youth\'s proud livery so gazed on now,
Will be a tatter\'d weed of small worth held:
Then being asked, where all thy beauty lies,
Where all the treasure of thy lusty days;
To say, within thine own deep sunken eyes,
Were an all-eating shame, and thriftless praise.
How much more praise deserv\'d thy beauty\'s use,
If thou couldst answer \'This fair child of mine
Shall sum my count, and make my old excuse,\'
Proving his beauty by succession thine!
This were to be new made when thou art old,
And see thy blood warm when thou feel\'st it cold.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
<P><P>When beauty fires the blood, how love exalts the mind. -John Dryden, 1700<P>

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<pre>
XLVIII

How careful was I when I took my way,
Each trifle under truest bars to thrust,
That to my use it might unused stay
From hands of falsehood, in sure wards of trust!
But thou, to whom my jewels trifles are,
Most worthy comfort, now my greatest grief,
Thou best of dearest, and mine only care,
Art left the prey of every vulgar thief.
Thee have I not lock\'d up in any chest,
Save where thou art not, though I feel thou art,
Within the gentle closure of my breast,
From whence at pleasure thou mayst come and part;
And even thence thou wilt be stol\'n I fear,
For truth proves thievish for a prize so dear.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
<P>The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed. --Albert Einstein<P><P>I love women. They\'re the best thing ever created. If they want to be
like
men and come down to our level, that\'s fine.
Mel Gibson<P>

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And evening here: our hemisphere was dark,
While all the mountain bathed in white, when I
Saw Beatrice turned around, facing left,
her eyes raised to the sun-no eagle ever
couls stare so fixed and straight into such light!
-Dante, The Divine Comedy: Paradise

In an artist\'s life, death is perhaps not the most difficult
thing.
Vincent Van Gogh
<P>Love: St. Augustine Quotes
He who is filled with love is filled with God himself.<P><P>

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government
programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is
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from painting what he sees before him.
Caspar David Friedrich
<pre>
XLIX

Against that time, if ever that time come,
When I shall see thee frown on my defects,
When as thy love hath cast his utmost sum,
Call\'d to that audit by advis\'d respects;
Against that time when thou shalt strangely pass,
And scarcely greet me with that sun, thine eye,
When love, converted from the thing it was,
Shall reasons find of settled gravity;
Against that time do I ensconce me here,
Within the knowledge of mine own desert,
And this my hand, against my self uprear,
To guard the lawful reasons on thy part:
To leave poor me thou hast the strength of laws,
Since why to love I can allege no cause.
--William Shakespeare</pre>
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<P>Beauty in nature\'s coin must not be hoarded,
But must be current, and the good thereof,
Consists in mutual and partaken bliss.
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Tis done. We have become a nation.
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phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it
stops moving, subsidise it.
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God is subtle but he is not malicious. --Albert Einstein<P>Sometimes a scream is better than a thesis. --Ralph Waldo Emerson <P><P>Knowledge: St. Augustine Quotes
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